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I want one of these more than can be described. Find a 100+ with a slight zoom/scope and I will love you forever. [360] gamertag Going2killu.I heal if you shut it 07:29, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Ammo consumption?

Does each burst consume 3 rounds, or 9? --Feel the BURN! 18:48, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

S&S Gemini

Doesn't this just kinda defeat the purpose of the S&S Gemini because the Gemini is 2 bullets fired in a 2 round burst.

Not really. The Gemini is an Orange version of the Double prefix, no drawbacks. The Violator has significant stat downsides to go with it's properties. The Violator tends to be the better weapon in my opinion but it's not as one sided as it seems. --Raisins 16:35, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
Part Name Part Type Damage Mod Accuracy Mod Fire Rate Mod Extra Effect
barrel4_Torgue_Violator Barrel -50% 0% +300% 3-shot Burst Fire, x3 Shotgun Effect, -114% recoil reduction
acc4_DoubleShot Acc -15% -15% 0% x2 Shotgun Effect, +2 Magazine Size
acc4_SandS_Gemini Acc 0% 0% 0% x2 Shotgun Effect, +7 Magazine Size

Note that as a barrel the Violator loses up to +30% damage the Gemini can get from a normal barrel, but the Gemini is an accessory so it can't be elemental.

I forgot to add, one's a Torgue and the other is S&S. So from the materials the Violator gets more damage and rate of fire, and the Gemini gets a little damage, increased magazine, and slower reload(unless it's the rarest).

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